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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 5, 2007 10:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Unbroken Chain

I was just listening to Phil and Friends perform Unbroken Chain (12-30-05 at the Warfield if you're interested) and feeling the hairs stand up on the back of my neck and almost crying at the sheer yearning beauty of it, and realizing how much I just flat out love that song. And I got to wondering...

The Grateful Dead recorded Unbroken Chain in 1974 at the damn height of their powers and yet they didn't play it live until 1995 when the game was all but up. Maybe wiser Heads can say why that should be, why they waited so long. For me, I have to say that my greatest Dead-related regret is that I don't have a whole boxful of live versions of Unbroken Chain to enjoy. I'd have loved to hear Garcia, Lesh and Godchaux go hypersonic on those snaky intricate rhythms, I'd love to have heard what Mydland and later Hornsby could have brought to that party, what a guesting Marsalis could have done with it. But no. It was never to be.

Anyone else got any similar regrets, any other 'if onlys'?

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Poster: caspersvapors Date: Jun 5, 2007 12:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

the reason they never played it was because its a complicated song

they broke it out per request of Phils son, who heard it and liked it and asked his dad to perform it

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Poster: patkelley Date: Jun 5, 2007 12:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

That's the story I got from Phil's book. There must have been some other reason besides the song's complexity that kept it out of the rotation. After all, they played Help/Slipknot and Let it Grow and Wharf Rat and other complicated compositions for their whole career. Maybe they tried it, though, and really couldnt pull it off.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 5, 2007 12:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

Sure it was a complicated song -but a lot of the things they did onstage were complex. I don't really think that's a reason not to do it. Hell, they were the most adventurous band on the planet with the world's most unforgiving audience - they couldn't have been afraid to try.

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Jun 5, 2007 2:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

"the world's most unforgiving audience"

not to knit-pick, but taken within context i can't help but think you meant "forgiving"...although "unforgiving" may very well be the more appropriate description for a few members of the audience :)

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 5, 2007 2:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

Yeah, you're right, thank you - I did mean forgiving of course!

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Poster: caspersvapors Date: Jun 5, 2007 2:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

dont ask me, ask Phil, he writes about it in his book

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Jun 5, 2007 1:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

Isn't this about the time that Phil pulled back on vocals?

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Poster: BryanE Date: Jun 5, 2007 7:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

Right about that time, yes.

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Jun 5, 2007 12:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

it is epic, many time and key changes, even the jam section alternates between tricky 11/8 and 15/8 (the Mahavishnu influence???) although they did manage other epics (Sailor>Saint, Terrapin, WRS)...my guess is P&F rehearses more then GD did

here's the link...some fierce jammin!...thanx Rob
http://www.archive.org/details/phil2005-12-30.flac16

a search reveals about 5 P&F Rosemary's
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=rosemary%20AND%20mediatype%3Aetree%20AND%20collection%3Aetree

Rosemary woulda coulda shoulda made a great later era breakout...but they didn't have to and we can't make them

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 5, 2007 1:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

Thanks for supplying those links Midnight - much obliged to ya!

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 5, 2007 1:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

so why didn't he ask for Pride of Cucamonga? I would have loved to hear it - not the greatest song in the canon, but at least break it out once or twice.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 5, 2007 4:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

Hey! Are you trying for another 600 posts or something? Very popular...

Anyway, can't add much to the eloquent posts above, but wanted to say 'hello' and that I hope you continue to keep things moving forward around here...

It does me good to see it looking better around here now a days...

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Poster: Death&Mercy Date: Jun 5, 2007 12:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

rob,

I share your feelings on Unbroken Chain. One of the best songs ever written by the band in my opinion.

I was blown away by the performance of Phil and friends. It's not an easy song to pull off. For a minute there, I felt that old spark (I think Phil might have as well).

If only's? Pig playing with the band circa 1979. His vocal presence combined with that energy? Pick any song.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 5, 2007 12:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

Know what you mean about Phil feeling the spark - you can hear the emotion in his voice when he sings, can't you? It's a piece of work that he can feel rightly very proud of.

And wouldn't it have been wonderful if Pigpen had lived? You let your imagination run riot - Jerry, Pigpen and John Kahn as a blues trio? What do you reckon?

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Poster: tree-ap Date: Jun 5, 2007 1:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

I remember reading something about Phil not being up for singing around then, that he felt his voice was shot. But there are those rehearsal recordings here that have my fav Phil tune, Pride of Cucamonga, and I think he sounds great; Unbroken Chain is there as well.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd74-12-xx.mars-hotel.12468.sbeok.shnf

On another note, I just went to look under 1974 here @ LMA, and there seems to have been some shows removed from this spectacular year. I do not know what is missing, but when I used to go to page 2 of '74, that's where there were all of the Europe shows from the Fall, but now the only thing listed is this studio/rehearsal stuff.

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Jun 5, 2007 1:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

is the date listed bogus? can't imagine them getting together a month after retirement to re-rehearse the already released Mars Hotel

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Poster: tree-ap Date: Jun 5, 2007 1:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

Yea, I thought about mentioning that as well. I'm sure that it is. More than likely it's from before the album was released, and since they didn't perform either of Phil's songs live back then, this probably isn't realy a "rehearsal" either.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jun 5, 2007 11:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

Regrets? I've had a few, but then again too few to mention : )

I think it's strange they never took a stab at it during, as you say and I totally agree with, the height of their powers.

I wish they hadn't given up on Cosmic Charlie. I love that tune.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 5, 2007 12:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

Got to agree with you on Cosmic Charlie, Johnny. I love the way that Phil has been inclined to revive some of the good old numbers with the Phriends, like Cosmic Charlie, Mountains of the Moon. Mason's Children and even, I believe, Rosemary.

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Poster: gilamonster58 Date: Jun 5, 2007 12:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

Not a biG fan, I mean

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jun 5, 2007 12:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

Agreed about Phil. That was the ONLY good thing to come out of Jerry's passing imo - the other guys especially/mostly Phil really ramped it up. Some of their most adventurous playing since the early days of the GD.

Phil did Rosemary? Now THERE's a tune I would of liked to have heard. There's one version I know of, Gans played it on his show as part of the taping compendium thing. Extremely hissy but who cares? Only recorded version anyone knows of. Anyone remember the date?

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 5, 2007 12:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

Phil's done Rosemary a few times - try
http://www.archive.org/details/2004-12-18.paf.sbd.bertha-ashley.28876.sbeok.flacf
for a good one. (And the night before they did What's Become of the Baby!)

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Poster: Fishead Date: Jun 5, 2007 1:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: rosemary

Band Grateful Dead
Venue Bellarmine College
Location Louisville, KY
Date 12/7/68 -

set One Dark Star [#13:25] > Saint Stephen [4:01] > The Eleven [3:49] ; (1) [4:00] % Death Don't Have No Mercy [#2:49] ; [2:11] % Cryptical Envelopment [#0:03] > Drums [0:14] > The Other One [6:10] > Cryptical Envelopment [7:00] > Jam [0:49]> (2) New Potato Caboose [14:10] ; [0:26] % (3) [0:02]

set Two Rosemary [#3:00] ; [1:48] ; He Was A Friend Of Mine [6:03#] ; [0:03] ; It Hurts Me Too [#4:51] ; (4) [2:08] ; Morning Dew [8:35] > And We Bid You Good Night [2:50] ; (5) [0:21]
Comments It sounds as though there is only one drummer on this tape - Mickey. See comment (4) below and the listing for 11/22/68. Bear can occasionally be heard making strange comments. Perhaps this is a tape of the signal that went to the monitors. After "one man gathers what another man spills" in Saint Stephen, Bobby says "Why did you pay for it?". (1) the Eleven timing includes the "William tell" verse. The Eleven comes to a stop after the usual opening jam. Someone is heard saying "Fade out". Bobby explains they need to rearrange some things to correct an echoing problem. Bear suggests everyone on one side of the auditorium go over to the other side and vice versa. (2) the Phil bass solo in New Potato Caboose contains a jam based on Frederick Chopin's piece "Opus #64", also known as "The Minute Waltz". (3) After New Potato Caboose, Bobby says "We're gonna take a little break". (4) Jerry asks for requests from the audience. When someone requests Alligator, Jerry says, "We're not going to do Alligator because one of our drummers, uh - broke down." (5) After AWBYGN, Jerry says "You've just been victimized by the Grateful Dead!".
Recordings 60 (set 1) SB, 30 (set 2) SB (mono) According to Jim Wise, the source is 7 inch 1/2 track reel master at 7.5 ips > 1st gen. Tascam MKII cassette > Sony D-10 Pro DAT (Sony PCM R-700 playback) > hard disk (via ZA2 sound card & Sonic Foundry Sound Forge) > cd
Download Sources Soundboard

Contributors David Sorochty , Jim Wise , Ihor W Slabicky , Alex Lindenberger , Glenn Gillis , Andrew Newbold, Brian Pollard
Caretaker David Sorochty email update
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i have this show ...not sure of the quality..will give it a listen tonight -

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jun 5, 2007 4:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: rosemary

cool, thanks for the info

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Poster: Fishead Date: Jun 5, 2007 7:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: rosemary

here is a link to the source i have ....

..http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=505136

it's not too bad ..good raw dead...the caboose is cool.
excellent other one ..now it's kinda hard to hear jerry's vocals on the rosemary..gots to turn up the volume on that one ..recommend it for the hardcore deadhead...

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Poster: gilamonster58 Date: Jun 5, 2007 12:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

Not a bif fan of Cosmic Charlie myself but I agree that Mountains if the Moon and Mason's Children were retired way too soon, as was Clementine. Mason's and Clementine in particular had serious jam potential that was never realized IMHO.

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Poster: gilamonster58 Date: Jun 5, 2007 11:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

I loved Unbroken Chain from the first moment I heard it. I suppose it is not a particularly easy song to play live but it sure would have been nice if they tried in, oh, say, '77.

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Poster: AshesRising Date: Jun 5, 2007 10:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

robthewordsmith:
Hunter wrote a song entitled "Walker After Midnight." - in 1990 as I read the lyrics in "Box of Rain" I could practically hear Jerry singing it. - unfortunately I heard that Vince ended up performing it and Phil also did something with it === no idea if he ever recorded it, performed it in concert, whatever...it is pure Jerry --- AshesRising

Walker After Midnight

A walker after midnight
On the road to Auld Lang Syne
I have walked a crooked mile
And I have walked the line
Walked on desert pathways
In the shadow of the flood
Slipped and fell from mountain tops
Swam in my own blood

Chorus:
A walker after midnight
More than this I cannot say
A walker after midnight
And I met you on my way

A walker after midnight
In another kind of light
I do not trust to reason
And I cannot trust my sight
I do not trust to messengers
With bright and shining eyes
I do not trust the foolish
And I dare not trust the wise

[chorus]

A walker in the shadows
Between the walls of night
I used to thirst for glory
But I lost my appetite
Always one more trophy
I could never quite achieve
I'll settle for my sanity
And something to believe

Something to believe in
To the bottom of my soul
Something to hang on to
Something to console
Something to live up to
In spite of all disgrace
When all my other failings
Are paraded in my face

Maybe it's my destiny
To love what others hate
Maybe there is time to change
And maybe it's too late
At times I feel a light divine
And try to catch a spark
End up strikin' matches
To better see the dark

[chorus]

A walker after midnight
And my destiny is grim
Staring at the starlight
Till my eyes are growing dim
I still see well enough to know
The path I must pursue
If we meet again before the end
I'll share my fate with you
(Robert HUnter @1990-2007)

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Poster: cush212 Date: Jun 5, 2007 10:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

Thank you Ashes... I know that wasn't for me, but if you only knew how true it rings...

I do not remember it, makes it even better!

:)

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Poster: AshesRising Date: Jun 6, 2007 1:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

cush212:
....are you aware of "Touch of Darkness?"...Hunter set it to music and performed it at shows. If "Walker" rings true, then get ready to be totally crushed by this one.
As you know, you are welcome to send me an email and request any of Hunter's materials; my laptop is finally working again and I'm just sittin' hear burnin' away to catch-up.
In the end, though, "Big wheel turns...

--- AshesRising (Jerri1031-dp3 AT yahoo DOT com)

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Poster: cush212 Date: Jun 6, 2007 11:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

"Touch of darkness" isn't ringing a bell right now... Will have to dig out my copy of Box of Rain and check it out! Thanks in advance Ashes...

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Poster: AshesRising Date: Jun 6, 2007 11:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

cush212: Let me send you a live version. -- AshesRising

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Poster: cush212 Date: Jun 6, 2007 11:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

Ouch, ouch... Please don't twist my arm so hard!!!

Seriously though, I would appreciate it! I looked through my Hunter stuff that I have accessible and did not see it... Always love new Hunter stuff!

BTW, he did do a short post in his journal today... First since 4/30. Here it is...

6.5.07
Now it can be told, of one who with sheer determination overcame the pain in his hands, while driving kayak, long enough to inflict real damage resulting in inability to open a bottle top or play guitar for nigh on to six weeks. Is healing and how sweet to be able to resume playing. Not to mention opening bottle tops. Nothing like nearly losing to give appreciation.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 6, 2007 1:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

AshesRising - thank you for sharing this intensely moving Hunter lyric. Jerry would have broken your heart in two with this one. I guess you have to be a certain age to appreciate how it feels to be walking after midnight in your life, striking sparks where you can and looking for something that might give your journey purpose, but knowing that the new dawn is not for you.

I'd love to hear Phil do it in that honest open voice of his. When I heard him sing Days Between it damn near had me in tears it was so tender and touching.
http://www.archive.org/details/1999-04-17.paf.sbd.miller.25297.sbeok.flacf

You don't say, so I imagine that he hasn't done it, but I'd really like to hear Hunter sing these words himself.

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Poster: AshesRising Date: Jun 6, 2007 1:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

robthewordsmith:
I even wrote to Hunter after Jerry's departure to find out if he or Jerry applied the notes -- no such luck, I had written to Jerry at least twice a year from Nov. 1990 onwards but another tune left unsung.
Hunter directed me to a singer/songwriter who had created a cd of several if his tunes: June Rushing.
robthewordsmith: I can understand why some think it is closed-minded of me, however I just cannot possibly handle others singing some, not all, of Jerry's tunes. I listened to about 10 seconds of June Rushing's version and probably even less of Vince's. As i stated, when I read the lyrics I could practically hear Jerry's voice and guitar --- there's no way anybody else could possibly bring out the soul of those lyrics the way Jerry would.

And stones fall from my eyes instead of tears -- AshesRising

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Jun 5, 2007 11:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

it's a weird song to begin with and i think "the dead" and P&F actually captured it better for me than the 1995 GD.

As for other regrets I'd say She Belongs to me. I love that song and i think the boys nailed it in 1985. Would have been a nice addition to the post space ballad spot not to mention the return on Visions might have made it a nice 1-2 punch on sepatare nights.

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Jun 5, 2007 12:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

The reason that the grateful dead didn't play Unbroken Chain because a guy named August West asked them not to play it until his release from the joint. Apparently West was serving time "for some other fucker's crime," and wanted the boys to hold it's breakout as the song was really written about him. The chain referenced in the song was a necklace given to him by Phil shortly before his incarceration. The lines, "They say love your brother but you will catch it when you try. Roll you down the line boy, drop you for a loss, Ride you out on a cold railroad and nail you to a cross"

appear to reference the fact that West had been caught attempting to violate the laws of God and man with his younger brother, November." Instead, he got nailed by the feds, though he claimed he was railroaded.

Mr. West was not released from prison until early 1995. It was then that the band finally broke out the song, thus fulfilling Phil's promise.

And now you know the rest of the story.

---Paul Harvey

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Poster: BryanE Date: Jun 5, 2007 5:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

no shit?

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 5, 2007 12:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

Nice one, Ghost. As the Italians in the audience might say 'se non è verro, è ben trovato' - or 'if it ain't true - it should be'. Space-Unbroken Chain-Wharf Rat would have made a hell of a second set climax...

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Jun 5, 2007 12:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

On a more serious note: one of the best studio songs in the band's checkered history. Love "that sound."

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Poster: Jerrob Hungar Date: Jun 6, 2007 2:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

Hiya Rob...just a footnote to say thanks for this thread...I love reading this kind of stuff...one of the reasons I like hangin out here...thought you might like this if you haven't seen it already...
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1950247795
I've always been intrigued by this song and Robert M. Peterson...I don't know much about him other than this from David Dodd's site...
< Robert M. Petersen contributed three lyrics to the Grateful Dead: "New Potato Caboose," "Unbroken Chain," and "Pride of Cucamonga."
Born in 1936 in Klamath Falls, Oregon. Died 1987.
The flyleaf of his volume of collected poems, Alleys of the Heart", states that "in the 50's he hopped the freights, played jazz saxophone and attended San Mateo College in California."
He also served time: the collection of poems entitled "Blue Petre and Other Poems" bears the note, "Deuel Vocational Institution, 1963-1964." Indeed, if you want biographical information on Petersen, you should examine his poetry.
And within the poems themselves is the story of a life lived determinedly on the road, courting the down-and-out muse of all the Beat poets. There is quite a bit of poetry about the Grateful Dead, most notably the poem "Fern Rock." He characterizes the band as "they of visionary song / plumbing the deepest channels..." >

I haven't come across any of his poetry but I'd be grateful for any further insights or info.

Blue light rain, whoa unbroken chain,
Looking for familiar faces in an empty window pane.

Listening for the secret, searching for the sound
But I could only hear the preacher and the baying of his hounds.

Willow sky, whoa, I walk and wonder why,
They say love your brother, but you will catch it when you try.

Roll you down the line boy, drop you for a loss,
Ride you out on a cold railroad and nail you to a cross.

November and more, as I wait for the score,
They're telling me forgiveness is the key to every door.
A slow winder day a night like forever,
Sink like a stone, float like a feather.

Lilac rain, unbroken chain, song of the saw-whet owl.
Out on the mountain, it'll drive you insane, listening to the winds howl

Unbroken chain of sorrow and pearls, unbroken chain of shy and sea.
Unbroken chain of the western wind, unbroken chain of you and me.

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Poster: cosmicblue Date: Jun 6, 2007 2:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

hey everyone, i usually don't post often on here, just do plenty of reading of everyone's thoughts, but speaking of unbroken chain i had to report that i just saw one of my fav unbroken chains ever with phil and phriends at mountain jam, at hunter mtn this past weekend, 6/3/07 to be exact. it was a 2nd set opener that was just absolutely pure. phil's voice was about as good as i've ever heard it, and the interplay between warren and john scofield was outstanding.
http://www.archive.org/details/paf2007-06-03.km184.v2.flac16

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Poster: cush212 Date: Jun 6, 2007 3:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

Listening to this show right now for the first time... into Eyes, and it has all been very good so far!!! Looking forward to Unbroken Chain...

;)

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Poster: cosmicblue Date: Jun 6, 2007 3:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

this whole show was absolutly amazing, best phil and phriends since 00-01, hopefully phil brings this lineup back again, the scarlet>eyes>fire was crazy, and then unbroken chain.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Jun 5, 2007 7:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unbroken Chain

Along the same line as a lot of the replies, many early songs, especially the Aoxomoxoa material, would have been greatly received had they been revived in the later years: Cosmic Charlie, Mountains of the Moon, Doin' That Rag. Not unlike Unbroken Chain, Phil's other contribution to Mars Hotel, Pride of Cucamonga, would have been very cool, too, and I'm unaware if it is a song that is in his present rotation. It's obvious that with Jerry's passing, Phil realized that the choice to mine the repertoire for numbers that had long ago been left by the wayside became entirely his own decision to make for his own band. But a more mature Grateful Dead rendition of Viola Lee Blues, for example, would have been very interesting, with greater finesse and perhaps, as I mentioned yesterday, greater subtlety. The Anthem of the Sun songs have been revisited nicely over the past few years or so. Even Born Cross-Eyed has been shown to work quite well. On the other hand, though, Garcia commented on the early originals at some point by saying that much of that material was overwritten and cumbersome to perform. Part of his growth as a songwriter between the Anthem/Aoxomoxoa period and the Workingman's Dead/American Beauty era was the discovery that what might have seemed to work well on paper did not necessarily translate to something that could flow with a reasonable ease and facility on stage night after night. Hunter's maturity as a lyricist grew, as well, and perhaps Jerry felt more comfortable with lines like "Fare you well, I love you more than words can tell" than, say, "Rosy red and electric blue, I bought you a paddle for your paper canoe." But then again, he never seemed to grow tired of "A leaf of all colors plays a golden string fiddle to a double-E (doublee?) waterfall over my back."

I regret that I didn't make an effort to get up from my acid-fatigued ass more frequently at my first show to actually watch the band at work, as opposed to lying on the ground for hours, watching the clouds in the sky change colors.

And I regret not making the drive up to St. Paul with my fellow Head from the freshman dorm who came down to see Kiel Auditorium-St. Louis with me during Summer Tour '81:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-07-10.nak300.munder.7314.sbeok.shnf

It was definitely the one that got away as far as my days of going to shows are concerned. Casey Jones encore? I still kick myself.

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Poster: I_love_you Date: Jun 5, 2007 8:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pride of Cucamunga

I am 16 and when I was 14 I went with my mom to phil and friends and he played Pride! dig it!

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Poster: BryanE Date: Jun 6, 2007 3:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pride of Cucamunga

Good for you! I am 45 and went to my first Grateful Dead concert when I was 15, so maybe you and I are working on approximately the same schedule.

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Poster: I_love_you Date: Jun 6, 2007 5:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pride of Cucamunga

lol yeah wait so that means that you saw ur first show in '77?

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Poster: BryanE Date: Jun 6, 2007 6:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pride of Cucamunga

1976-Bob Weir was still in his 20's, if that helps put it into perspective. Dinosaurs were no longer roaming the earth at that point, but they had only been extinct for a few years by then.